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Old 13th June 2003, 02:32 PM
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Can anyone help

I am sending off my entry for Thorpe today for the second stop of the wakeboard tour. This will be my first comp and I am trying to establish how the run is scored, i,e, how many tricks you are meant to perform in a run

Can anyone help?

Also does anyone know any of the points for tricks to try and help me see what catergory i should enter? i.e. Rookie or open

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Old 14th June 2003, 10:16 PM
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what kind of tricks do you do the best, spins, flips, others???? also, i'm pretty sure that 360's are worth more than tantrums & anything lower than that flip. So if you aren't already, start working on spins. good luck in the comp. hope i helped
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it all depends what category u ride in,but the judges are looking to see a good variation of tricks so if you are at a high standard then ideally u should be doing raley tricks,spins and different flips.
u get scored better if you grab stuff and if u hit the obstacles-rails,kickers etc.
if u r a bit further down the wakeboarding ladder then u need to put in a good variety of grabs,both toeside and heelside and also u need to put in 180's to replace the spins if u can't do any spins.
above all else try to go as big as possible 'cos no-one is going to Thorpe to watch trick skiing!! 8)
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Guys

the main point I was hoping for help on, is what is the format of a run. Do you get to do a certain number of tricks in a time, or distance?

or just a set number of tricks?

Anyone know
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Hi, I can help you out as I've done the UK judging course and judged on a few occasions (under the assistance of the chief judge of course). We also wrote the competition scoring software WakeScore which is used on the UK, european and IWSF comps... anyway enough trumpet blowing here's the info ops:

As in most disciplines the idea is that judging is used as a technique to work out who has the best run on a competition day....

As this is a subjective decision a number of judges are used in combination with a methodology for converting what the judges see into a number on the judging sheet.

Here's how the points are split for Wakeboard UK comps:

Execution: 33.3%
:twisted: Intensity: 33.3%
:arrow: Composition: 33.3%

* Each rider receives a score out of 100 which consists of averaged scores from all judges in the boat. It's worth noting that a score of 40 in rookies does not equal 40 in pro men ;-) Judges give a score out of 10 for each area and the calculators process this into the average score out of 100. Scores are not given on a fixed basis for each trick ala trick skiing.

What do the 3 areas mean?

Execution is the cleanness and style with which tricks are performed.
(A smooth clean pop, long grab and sweet landing rates over a jerky pop, hand waving and dodgy landing on the top of the second wake)

Intensity is how hard the rider is going and also related to the intensity of the trick .
(For example Craig O'Meara will score good intensity when charging in at Mach speed and pulling an insance Raley.. whereas yours truly would get marked down for a namby pamby half hearted indy grab)

Composition is down to the mix of tricks that are laid down in the passes.
(A good mix contains inverts, grabs, spins, hitting the slider and/or kicker. This is an area which works against some riders as they may have poor execution on a trick that gets them necessary points in the composition area.)

I've got the competition judging details somewhere that I should dig out and put up on the website for everyone.

Other Tips

If you are planning a run to get maximum points for a comp remember that you have a limited number of falls so it can be good tactics to ramp up the difficulty of the tricks in your run so you accumulate points...
Don't try your hardest trick first, fall and loose your confidence then fall again before the end of the first pass.

This is obviously dependent on your standard... if you watch Dan Nott ride you'll see he's not that worried about difficulty of trick at the start... but he does pay attention to composition and will do some seemingly easier tricks which keep that composition high... he'll also pull that super difficult technical trick out of the bag which no-one else can do to gain in all three areas.

As with a subjective scoring system you may not always agree with the judges decisions... I've often wondered why a score was not how I expected.. only to find out the winner performed a switch technical invert that I missed from behind my pint and raincoat on the bank ;-)

If you want any more info let me know...
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Thanks Jeremy, really useful, one more important question. How many tricks can you do in one run, is there a set number,

i.e. your run is of 5 or 7 or 10 tricks?

Or is it done on a distance and the more tricks you can fit in the better?

answers greatly appreciated

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